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Post by Weak4Weeks on Jan 5, 2006 16:16:11 GMT -5
They wrote JMI to make him happy, then after that, Norman was going to release Smiling Faces Sometimes just so Eddie would stay. changing stories my friend...LOL! Okay...I'm done, anyone else want a go at it?
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Post by smooth on Jan 5, 2006 16:17:25 GMT -5
True, Smiling Faces Sometimes was not a ballad, but it would've been the next release featuring Eddie on lead. So let's see, back to back songs with Eddie on lead, one is a ballad and the other one isn't, but still two songs for him to sing lead on, sounds like a good deal. Smiling Faces Sometimes probably would've been a hit for them also had Eddie stayed.
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Post by smooth on Jan 5, 2006 16:19:25 GMT -5
Whose changing stories, that's what I've been saying.
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Post by misstara on Jan 6, 2006 10:26:53 GMT -5
It's really plain and simple. You read it here, and you also see and hear it come out of Eddie's mouth on "Street Gold"...He says "There is no top"
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Post by smooth on Jan 6, 2006 12:02:39 GMT -5
What do you mean by "there's no top"?
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Post by kalisa2 on Jan 6, 2006 12:29:03 GMT -5
What do you mean by "there's no top"? What Eddie was saying was, you spend your life trying to reach the top, but then you find, quote "there is no top"... i.e. there's always something/someone higher, no matter how high you climb...
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Post by misstara on Jan 6, 2006 12:37:36 GMT -5
You spend your life trying to reach the top, find there is no top, and in the process, you find rich at the bottom. He felt he already took "The Temptations" as far as *he* could.
Then he tells a story-"He told the old man to stand up, the old man said-I had been bent over for so long, I thought I already was"
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Post by smooth on Jan 7, 2006 20:46:20 GMT -5
okay,i understand
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Post by crella on Jan 10, 2006 16:42:37 GMT -5
It's not a matter of backing down. If Paul was being mistreated, and then Paul leaves because of health reasons, why is Eddie going to stick around if Paul is not there anymore. I never said he was mistreated, Paul had a bad condition, just going on without him and just replacing him, is not family like. Yeah Paul's health was bad, but guess what, the tempts weren't waiting for Paul, they just continued. They still had to perform without him. Example , they were performing I Can't Get Next To You, with just Dennis,Otis,Melvin, and Eddie. ANd Paul was in the hospital, just look at Eddie's face, he was real troubled about something. I wonder what it was. My saying your response sounds like movie reviews refers to what your stating here. I am talking about Eddie leaving as it actually happened. All we can do is draw a conclusion from what we read, unless Eddie said something clearer than what is stated in the articles, while having a conversation with one of us. What we do know is, he was done. He needed to do his things, his way and he did. I purchased his music when it was released, played "Keep on Truckin'" till my brother threatened to toss it out the window. As much as it pained we the fans, I'm sure he wrestled with it, unlike anything we can imagine. This was his life, his art, his career. He had to make hard choices, and still be able to live with himself. I applaud him for not making everything crystal clear, because even then there would still be dissection as to the "real reason". What looks like a great thing when your young, doesn't always stay that way when you get some age, experience and time behind you. You should always re-access your life and make sure your doing what is right for you.
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Post by Beej on Jan 11, 2006 14:03:09 GMT -5
Right, crella!
It does seem as though scenes from the mini-series are being referenced here, does it not?
I thought Eddie -- in real life -- was pretty clear about his primary reason for going solo...he had done all he could do -- both creatively and professionally -- with the Temptations. He wanted to take his music in a different direction and explore new avenues and that wasn't possible within the confines of the group.
There were certainly personal and professional disagreements factored in as well, but he ultimately did what was right for him...for his career...and it wasn't a move he took lightly or made out of spite. It could've been disastrous (and he worried about it, for sure), but it turned out to be the right move. As long as he was a Temptation, he was never going to establish his own identity or see his own creativity flourish to its fullest potential.
I still think some of his solo material was every bit as good -- if not better -- than his work with the Temptations.
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Post by mcribs on Jan 11, 2006 14:05:04 GMT -5
I still think some of his solo material was every bit as good -- if not better -- than his work with the Temptations. I agree...
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Post by smooth on Jan 12, 2006 13:18:36 GMT -5
If you're talking about my comments I'm not referring to the movie.
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Post by Aba21 on Jan 12, 2006 14:29:42 GMT -5
Eddie and Otis had conflicts from day one. They never really ever saw eye to eye. But Otis does give him his props for the outstanding performer he was. He also talks about how much of the background harmonies were done by Eddie as well as some of the steps. Eddie had a huge hand in the development of the group. He left because he wanted to........not because he was forced. He wanted to record solo and remain in the group. At that time it wasn't allowed. The only solo lp by any member of the group while they were still a member is Ron's Christmas cd, I believe. So, whether an unwritten rule or a hard and fast one, no solo work was done by any current member of the group. I also doubt that JMI was written just to appease Eddie. It was a great song and would have fit any of the 1st tenors who sang in the group. I think it came along a little too late for Eddie to stay though. He had all ready amde up his mind to go.
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Post by Weak4Weeks on Jan 12, 2006 14:30:03 GMT -5
If you're talking about my comments I'm not referring to the movie. Please don't be offended smooth. We're just saying you sounded like you were going based on what the movie did, instead of what really happened. There is NO WHERE printed that Eddie thought O would "throw Paul away like Alabama trash" EXCEPT the movie. In all the articles INCLUDING THIS one, Eddie decided to leave on his own. People are under the impression that Eddie left because Paul did, because that is how it was show in the movie. But if you know your TEMPT-history, you'll know that's not true. ;D
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Post by Weak4Weeks on Jan 12, 2006 14:31:59 GMT -5
. The only solo lp by any member of the group while they were still a member is Ron's Christmas cd, I believe. Well said Aba. And I must point out that Barrington Henderson's solo LP was release while he was still a member of the group. It just wasn't done back then though. ;D
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