|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Dec 20, 2005 17:20:28 GMT -5
Temptations Review' focuses on the past
Spokesman Review, The (Spokane),
May 25, 2000 by Heather Lalley Staff writer
You may need a flow chart for this one, but try to follow along.
There once was a singing group called the Temptations. They had flashy costumes and precision choreography, and topped 1960s charts with tunes like "My Girl," "The Way You Do the Things You Do" and "Just My Imagination."
Otis Williams, the only surviving original member of the group, still heads the Temptations. The group even made R&B charts this year.
Enter Dennis Edwards. Edwards joined the Temptations in 1968, replacing David Ruffin. He now tours around the country in what's called the "Temptations Review featuring Dennis Edwards."
He'll bring the review to the Spokane Opera House on Saturday.
"Me and Otis had a little split-up so I formed the Temptations Review," Edwards said by phone from St. Louis. "We like to think we're the better group ... The other group, they're trying to stay real modern."
It took a bitter court battle to hammer out the agreement over the use of the Temptations' name. As for that, Edwards said, "It's just a matter of words. The real guys are gone."
Edwards is joined by Dannis Johnson, Mike Patillo, Bernard Gibson and Chris Arnold.
"They sound like all the old guys," he said.
Once Edwards joined the Temptations, the group went into its psychedelic phase, recording songs like "Cloud Nine," "Psychedelic Shack" and "Ball of Confusion."
"For the last 25 years, the Temptations have been my life," Edwards said. "It's still a dream. Sometimes I still pinch myself. It has truly been the highlight of my life."
The Whispers will open the show. The R&B group was formed in the late 1960s by twins Wallace and Walter Scott. They are joined by Nicholas Caldwell and Leaveil Degree.
The Whispers found hits with "One For the Money," "Make it With You," "And the Beat Goes On," "Rock Steady" and dozens of other singles.
This sidebar appeared with the story:
IN CONCERT
The Temptations Review
Featuring Dennis Edwards. With The Whispers, Saturday at 8 p.m. at the Spokane Opera House. Tickets are $34.50, available through G&B (325-SEAT or 1-800-325-SEAT).
Copyright 2000 Cowles Publishing Company
Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning Company. All rights Reserved.
|
|
|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Dec 20, 2005 17:22:49 GMT -5
I dont agree with this statement. He means the original guys are gone, but his group as good as they may be, or as much as he thinks they sound like the old guys, are not REAL. How are the Temptations fake? I dont understand that, and I hope he was misquoted.
|
|
|
|
Post by soulfulchild on Jan 26, 2006 18:24:05 GMT -5
I dont agree with this statement. He means the original guys are gone, but his group as good as they may be, or as much as he thinks they sound like the old guys, are not REAL. How are the Temptations fake? I dont understand that, and I hope he was misquoted. Weaky, I totally agree. And what does he mean by its just a matter of words. Ummm, the Temptations are a household name that gives you goosebumbs when you here it....The only reason Dennis was there is because David was acting like a fool...if he really got his act right...we probably would not even know Dennis and as far as those guys are gone...they may be but there names still live on and have a lasting effect. David was a better singer than Dennis who only fit into the psychedelic shock. Why would you try to go to court over a name you didn't come up with, the original member Otis Williams  is the founder and leader of that group..why would you try to take that name from him. If you claim you were that good of a group why would you need a name,...why just got out and let your performance do the talking. My Girl, Just My Imagination, and The Way You Do The Things You Do, were all performed by the original Temptations....with out Dennis Edwards...come on man just do your thang....don't try to come off all like you deserve the name and your group is so much better. Man please. Let's be for real.  |
|
|
|
Post by smooth on Feb 3, 2006 11:22:49 GMT -5
First off David wasn't a better singer than Dennis, it's a matter of opinion. But Dennis had a stronger voice than David, he had that preacher's type of voice, adding more soul to the group.
Dennis was saying that his group sounds similar to the original guys. He wasn't calling anybody fake, he was referring to the original Tempts as the real guys. When in actuality they are the real guys, these guys now are the replacements. It is "a matter of words", because 4 of the original Tempts as we already know are dead, so the name is still here, but it's not the same thing being that 4 of the original/classic Tempts are gone. The Temptations are Ruffin, Paul, Otis, Melvin, and Eddie. These 5 men make up the Tempts anybody else is a replacement, and isn't a Temptation because they're not from the original/classic period. They sing as The Tempts, but they're not really The Tempts, that's what he's saying and I agree with what he said, Dennis meant no harm. By saying real, he meant original.
Dennis needs the name. He just can't go out and start singing with his group. That name "The Temptations" is legendary and in order to make money and to do shows, like P.B.S, he needs that name. Having that name will help him get to do shows. Dennis may not have started the name, but he helped the Tempts win Motown's first grammy, and helped The Tempts to have many hits. The Tempts asked him to sing with them, remember that. He's not an original, but he's from their classic period, enabling him to be considered as part of the classic 6, that's why he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. Dennis does deserve the name being that he was part of their success. And the man said that they like to think of themselves as the better group, there's nothing wrong with saying that.
|
|
|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Feb 3, 2006 12:20:42 GMT -5
First off David wasn't a better singer than Dennis, it's a matter of opinion. well, is it a matter of OPINION or what YOU say? You just made a statement, that I disagree with, but I am not going to say "oh NO David is better, but it's a matter of opinion." Soulful feels David was a better singer than Dennis. I agree. A lot of people think they can't be compared, that's cool. ;D again, that's your opinion. IMO the group couldn't handle more SOUL than Paul Williams. Again, if you'e not REAL, then you must be FAKE right? He is not an original, at least not in my book, or according to Webster. So is he FAKE? Yep. But the 5th one is still alive and kicking. Performing and touring the world. The group continues.... Oh lord. So Dennis isn't (and never was) a Temptation? And nobody else is? Your statements are stepping on a LOT of toes of people who contributed SO much to the Temptations. They are also CONFLICTING. Who the Review? I think you better call New Door Records, they must have made a mistake on the album cover. Well, then tell me why he is deserving when he aint even a REAL Temptation, not according to you, anyways. There's no such thing as a Classic 6.  I don't care how many "hits" he helped the group get. He left, and when he did, he left his rights to be grouped as "The Temptations" I think him and his review are fine, as long as they are advertised right. There sure isn't anything wrong with him saying that, and there damn sure aint anything wrong with me disagreeing!  |
|
|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Feb 3, 2006 12:23:14 GMT -5
ANd I also need to say, who cares if Dennis thinks his Review sounds like the old guys, they are not the old guys. PERIOD. So they can do a great Tempt-Imitation....Wonderful! People like that, that's great. But give credit where credit is due.
|
|
|
|
Post by smooth on Feb 3, 2006 13:15:27 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with giving his guys a compliment in saying they sound like the "real guys".There's no need to take that comment to heart. First off "Soulfulchild" said that David was better, and I said he's not better, and that it is a matter of opinion.Nothing wrong with saying that. Second, it's not an opinion, it's a fact, Dennis did have a stronger voice than David or any of the other Temptations, now being more soulful is a matter of opinion. As for being real, he meant the classic 5, when people talk about the real Tempts they aren't calling anybody fake, they are referring to the original/classic line-up. When real is used in this case it's referred to as original/classic, it's not calling anybody fake. The opposite of real is fake, but not in this case, in this case if you're not from the classic period you are a replacement, not a fake. I never said that Dennis wasn't real a Temptation, I said he's from the classic period, again not paying attention to what I said. I mentioned him helping The Tempts and being inducted into the Hall Of Fame. I never said that nobody else wasn't a Tempt either, everybody else is a Temptation they are just "replacements",they are still considered Temptations,they're just not originals or from the classic period. And like Dennis said "The Real Guys Are Gone", translation, he means the original Temptations. Nobody said that the singers who replaced The Tempts didn't contribute, or didn't help, I never said that. Calling somebody a replacement is not saying that they didn't help, it's just saying that they're not an original or from the CLASSIC period. I never said that Dennis wasn't a real Temptation. I said he's from the CLASSIC period. Let's try this again, the CLASSIC PERIOD. I said he helped them win Motown's first grammy, he helped them have hits, and he was inducted into The Rock and Roll of Fame. It doesn't sound like I said he wasn't a real Temptation. Again when he said "REAL" he was referring to the original/classic line-up, and DENNIS is included in that, remember 6 Temptations were inducted.Now does this mean that the others weren't Temptations, no it doesn't.And "real" means from the original/classic period in this regard. When he said real he wasn't referring to Richard Street or Damon Harris or Ali or Louis Price. And at the same time he wasn't saying that they weren't real Temptations either. He was referring to David, Paul, Eddie, and Melvin. By real he meant these four singers from the classic period. Hate it or love it, the classic 6 was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. No such thing as the classic 6, right Why don't you tell that to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And Dennis does give credit, he dedicates his shows to the 4 deceased original Tempts, Otis doesn't do that. |
|
|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Feb 3, 2006 13:39:53 GMT -5
By the way, it's the HOF6,not the Classic 6.  There' no such thing as a classic 6 Like I said, anybody else want to take this. Honestly, these boards aren't for arguing, they are for discussions. Everyone to sharetheir opinion, not facts. You stated to soulfulchild Dennis is better than David, Like it was a fact. When you say First of all..., that's stating a fact. There are PLENTY of boards, who welcome arguementative people, because they think it's FUN. I don't. You are changing your mind again. Pick a stance and commit. Dennis is not from the classic period. That's a fact. The Classic 5 were the members of the Temptations from the years 64-68 Was Dennis a member then? No. Have you ever been to a Temptations show? Probably not, if you have, you would know, Otis shows nothing but the highest respect for his Temptations brothers. |
|
|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Feb 3, 2006 13:43:04 GMT -5
Oops my bad, I locked the topic....continue...
|
|
|
|
Post by smooth on Feb 3, 2006 13:58:24 GMT -5
Dennis is from the classic period, that's why he was inducted into the Rock and Roll of Fame. He's not from the classic period Are you serious? What on earth do you call CLoud Nine(Motown's First Grammy), I Can't Get Next To You, Ball Of Confusion,Just My Imagination,just to name a few, Classics from the classic period. And Dennis was certainly there. So what if I haven't been to a show, but from the ones I've seen on tv, I've never heard O pay tribute to the 4 deceased members of The Tempts, that's what Dennis does. There's no big difference from watching it on tv or being there in person you still see them sing and dance. Another mute point that you made. I said I'll take your opinion for what it's worth and that's being argumentative, I don't think you know the meaning of that word. I've disagreed with quite of few people on this board, and you're the first one who's says I like to argue, when all I did was "disagree". It seems like I touched a nerve when I said that David wasn't better than Dennis. What's wrong with sharing facts about The Tempts? ;D |
|
luv
New Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by luv on Feb 3, 2006 14:37:51 GMT -5
Smooth is right, weak4weeks. He is just disagreeing with you, not arguing with you it's pretty clear that he respects your opinion and everybody else's.
|
|
|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Feb 3, 2006 14:58:59 GMT -5
To Weak4weeks, i'm not argumentative, just because I disagree with you it doesn't make me argumentative. You replied, then i replied back, that is not arguing. You're doing all the arguing for the both of us. You seem to get upset real fast. ;D You should go to those other boards that you're recommending, I'm just disagreeing, you're the one arguing. The way in which you posted to soulfulchild, was saying to me, that your opinions are facts. If you reread your posts with an open mind you will see what I mean. I am not arguing, I have no reason too. And about visiting those "messy" boards where they argue if you don't agree with them, I created this board to get away from that mindset. I am disagreeing as well, so let's keep it respectful. I wasn't talking about you in particular, just stating how I feel about these sort of discussions. Why should I say something? It was clear from his post that he was stating his opinion. what do I call them? Pyschadelic. You are confusing the Hall Of Fame Six, as some folks call them, with the Classic 5. Those songs may have been hits, but they are not from the classic era. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. There is no such thing as a Classic 6. The Tempts were made of 5 men? Am I speaking German or something? Not a moot point, or a "mute" point either. There is a HUGE difference between seeing a 5 minute performance on T.V. and a 90 minute concert. There are plenty of things the guys do in concert, that a short amount of time on T.V doesn't allow. It's the way you say things as if you're looking for someone o argue with you. Say whatever you want I am sure you have some valid points to share. Not a damn thing, as long as they are indeed FACTS. Speculation, gossip, rumors, stuff you heard through the grapevine, and OPINIONS, should be labeled as such. With that being said, I withdraw from this conversation.... |
|
|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Feb 3, 2006 15:00:25 GMT -5
Smooth is right, weak4weeks. He is just disagreeing with you, not arguing with you it's pretty clear that he respects your opinion and everybody else's. Welcome to the board luv! |
|
|
|
Post by smooth on Feb 3, 2006 17:40:28 GMT -5
Anyway those songs that I mentioned are from the classic era, like it or not.That's your opinion that those songs aren't from the classic era, that's not a fact. And the classic 6 means that they are six members from the classic period, I thought that was pretty clear, I guess it wasn't.
And I've seen concert footage of the Tempts and I've never seen Otis pay tribute to the 4 deceased Tempts, like Dennis does.
|
|
|
|
Post by Weak4Weeks on Feb 4, 2006 13:30:23 GMT -5
Okay, topic has been cleaned up, and let's continue this discussion respectfully....or else...
|
|
is the founder and leader of that group..why would you try to take that name from him. If you claim you were that good of a group why would you need a name,...why just got out and let your performance do the talking. My Girl, Just My Imagination, and The Way You Do The Things You Do, were all performed by the original Temptations....with out Dennis Edwards...come on man just do your thang....don't try to come off all like you deserve the name and your group is so much better. Man please. Let's be for real. 
I don't care how many "hits" he helped the group get. He left, and when he did, he left his rights to be grouped as "The Temptations" I think him and his review are fine, as long as they are advertised right. 